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So Strong; yet so calm: Mary's Choice.

Saturday, July 12, 2014

IF GOD CREATED EVERYTHING?














MINUS FLESH = H2O and SPIRITS
Shortest distance
 between 
Heaven and Hell


E=mc3
 (not a mistake)



"Jim.  
You weren't like other kids your age...playing with toy guns and soldiers, trucks and cars, things of that sort.  Your favorite toy was always a bucket and a minnow net; always down in ditches and creeks catching things."
~(My Mother)~







 "Yeah.  
Do feel bad about that.  Just about everything I caught... 
died; horribly."
~(James Edward Avery, D.V.M.)~


 
 If you've never tried flag dancing...it's not as easy as it looks; 
not for me anyway.  
But did get this one move down pretty good.  It requires each hand moving in a figure eight pattern.

The same figure eight.  But not at the same point in time....?


Einstein, in response to a question about whether or not he believed in God, explained:
Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. I admire even more his contributions to modern thought. Spinoza is the greatest of modern philosophers, because he is the first philosopher who deals with the soul and the body as one, not as two separate things.
In letters sent to physicist Max Born, Einstein revealed his devout belief in causal relationships:
You believe in a God who plays dice, and I in complete law and order in a world which objectively exists, and which I in a wildly speculative way, am trying to capture. I firmly believe, but I hope that someone will discover a more realistic way, or rather a more tangible basis than it has been my lot to find. Even the great initial success of the quantum theory does not make me believe in the fundamental dice game, although I am well aware that some of our younger colleagues interpret this as a consequence of senility.

 With regard to Divine command theory, Einstein stated, 
I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own—a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms.  A God who rewards and punishes is inconceivable to him for the simple reason that a man's actions are determined by necessity, external and internal, so that in God's eyes he cannot be responsible, any more than an inanimate object is responsible for the motions it undergoes. Science has therefore been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hopes of reward after death. It is therefore easy to see why the churches have always fought science and persecuted its devotees.

 On the importance of ethics he wrote, 
The most important human endeavor is the striving for morality in our actions. Our inner balance and even our very existence depend on it. Only morality in our actions can give beauty and dignity to life. To make this a living force and bring it to clear consciousness is perhaps the foremost task of education. The foundation of morality should not be made dependent on myth nor tied to any authority lest doubt about the myth or about the legitimacy of the authority imperil the foundation of sound judgment and action. I do not believe that a man should be restrained in his daily actions by being afraid of punishment after death or that he should do things only because in this way he will be rewarded after he dies. This does not make sense. The proper guidance during the life of a man should be the weight that he puts upon ethics and the amount of consideration that he has for others.  I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of his own creation. I cannot do this in spite of the fact that mechanistic causality has, to a certain extent, been placed in doubt by modern science. My religiosity consists in a humble admiration of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals itself in the little that we, with our weak and transitory understanding, can comprehend of reality. Morality is of the highest importance—but for us, not for God.

 n a 1930 New York Times article, Einstein distinguished three human impulses which develop religious belief: fear, social morality, and a cosmic religious feeling. A primitive understanding of causality causes fear, and the fearful invent supernatural beings analogous to themselves. The desire for love and support create a social and moral need for a supreme being; both these styles have an anthropomorphic concept of God. The third style, which Einstein deemed most mature, originates in a deep sense of awe and mystery. He said, the individual feels "the sublimity and marvelous order which reveal themselves in nature ... and he wants to experience the universe as a single significant whole." Einstein saw science as an antagonist of the first two styles of religious belief, but as a partner in the third. He maintained, "even though the realms of religion and science in themselves are clearly marked off from each other" there are "strong reciprocal relationships and dependencies" as aspirations for truth derive from the religious sphere. For Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." He continued:
a person who is religiously enlightened appears to me to be one who has, to the best of his ability, liberated himself from the fetters of his selfish desires and is preoccupied with thoughts, feelings and aspirations to which he clings because of their super-personal value. It seems to me that what is important is the force of this superpersonal content ... regardless of whether any attempt is made to unite this content with a Divine Being, for otherwise it would not be possible to count Buddha and Spinoza as religious personalities. Accordingly a religious person is devout in the sense that he has no doubt of the significance of those super-personal objects and goals which neither require nor are capable of rational foundation ... In this sense religion is the age-old endeavor of mankind to become clearly and completely conscious of these values and goals and constantly to strengthen and extend their effect. If one conceives of religion and science according to these definitions then a conflict between them appears impossible. For science can only ascertain what is, but not what should be...
An understanding of causality was fundamental to Einstein's ethical beliefs. In Einstein's view, "the doctrine of a personal God interfering with natural events could never be refuted, in the real sense, by science," for religion can always take refuge in areas that science can not yet explain. It was Einstein's belief that in the "struggle for the ethical good, teachers of religion must have the stature to give up the doctrine of a personal God, that is, give up that source of fear and hope" and cultivate the "Good, the True, and the Beautiful in humanity itself."

Einstein was then asked to what extent he was influenced by Christianity. 
"As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene." 
Einstein was then asked if he accepted the historical existence of Jesus, to which he replied, 
"Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."
He stressed however in a conversation with William Hermanns that, 
"I seriously doubt that Jesus himself said that he was God, for he was too much a Jew to violate that great commandment: Hear O Israel, the Eternal is our God and He is one!' and not two or three." 
Einstein lamented, 
"Sometimes I think it would have been better if Jesus had never lived. No name was so abused for the sake of power!" 
Nevertheless, he also expressed his belief that 
"if one purges the Judaism of the Prophets and Christianity as Jesus Christ taught it of all subsequent additions, especially those of the priests, one is left with a teaching which is capable of curing all the social ills of humanity."






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    there is no such thing as hate being the short end of a stick. it has to be shared with love. as both love and hate are anthropomorphic terms, doesn't it make sense we split this stick 50/50 between the two whether or not God created everything; at least the stick if anything?
    As everything within our language is assumptive based, we will never get to the end of this debate, having no way of getting everyone agreeing to the same assumptions; except those who considered themselves "people of faith". For debates simply cannot be won up against their worships of GOLD PLATED GODs made of hollowed plastic having a faux metallic finished; most especially up against their unshakeable faiths/convictions in "thought terminating cliches" .
    But this does not mean one should give up trying. Why? Because worldview determines morality; intention shapes reality; leaving "denial" the other half of a stick known as one's imagination. And the same as it was imagination helping create the reality of the U.S. being the first one creating the Atomic Bomb during World War II; denial ended up bringing down the two tower of a World Trade Center.
    If God is for us, then who can be against us?
    And this be the lesson about pragmatic competence:
    Why...I can! For I don't consider myself one of you.
    And we get the God we have; not the one you chose.
    Simply Jim: One Pearl, Total Pig, Anti-Christ.
    Simply Jim: Radical Fairy the Methodist Fag.
    Simply Jim: Methodist Fag the Political Catalyst.
    Simply Jim, DVM: James Edward Avery, Doctor of Herd Health Medicine
    Simply Jim the Hadron Collider: Introduced to God before aware of God.
    Simply Jim the Persona Buster: Omniscience?Omnipotent?Omnibenevolent?Omnipresent?
    Suicide Jim: One date with me and you just want to kill yourself!
    U=Pragmatic Competence
    Before there can be conflict, there must first be common interest. Before an advantage, there must first be something different.
    Well..."common interest" is "space"...sort of...we all compete for the same space we have no choice but to share. But it is the human species only that's capable of being "aware" of having additional "choices". And apparently, it beginning to seem ...everything (mineral, vegetable, or animal)... with these people of faith strangely missing something?
    As there was Zero in the beginning/eventually Zero in the end:
    Zero plus Zero equals Two times Zero equals Zero.
    So what does it matter what happens here, there, or anywhere in else in between. We're doomed, doomed, doomed eventually anyway if not done in much much much sooner due to people of faith steering all of us... straight ...right through HEAVEN and immediately into HELL ON A MASS SCALE; all because of a "thought terminating cliche".
    CHRISTIAN BELIEVING JESUS DIED FOR THEIR SINS SO THEY ONLY MAY HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE! PERIOD!
    The first half...knowing of "Jesus having died for their sins so they may live" supposedly creates ...the cognitive dissonance causing stress due to internalize guilt, shame, etc.
    The second half...believing that "Jesus did die for their sins so that they may live" creates... the dissonance reduction just by happily claiming to be a Christian (when they already were) who's confessing to all of us being sinners along with them when feeling guilty about something? without getting all of our consents first!
    Einstein is right. If COLD is lack of HEAT; then EVIL is lack of LOVE in one's heart.
    Again... one's worldview creates one's morality; one's intent creates the reality.
    No IFS, ANDS, AND BUTS ABOUT IT!
    The Christian faith is an exclusionary religion intentionally worded sounding otherwise.
    But it comes with a cost; both up front through the offering of hush money called domestic violence policies and from behind keeping devils at bay called foreign policies.



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        I just love God so much.



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            This quote is false. It never happened. Albert Einstein was atheist and was just used to get the story passed around.



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                Einstein was a semi-agnostic Jew. The rest of your post is correct.
                EDIT: Correction, Einstein believed in the god of Baruch Spinoza, but rejected the Jewish understanding of a personal god. Quote: "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."



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                The main thing that annoys me about this is that Albert Einstein has been attached to this quote when in reality he has said no such thing.
                Heat is an energy so yes cold is the absence of this; light too is also an energy. Morality however is abstract and in cases subjective so the comparison doesn't really hold up.
                Besides, I thought God is all loving and so his love should be present in everyone's heart even if it's unrequited.



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                    God is all loving to his people, yes, but not to those who do not accept him. It's Biblically incorrect to state that God loves ALL people, because of his foreknowledge of those who do not accept the Savior. However, this is not to be mixed with the fact that God indeed did die for all people and is free to everyone.



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                        Did God have or did God not have Mary permission having that child?
                        Technically this is still rape; whether her uterus shredded or not...by the biggest mother fucker of them all that small minds capable of conceiving. Don't go excusing his behavior just because it' never was a fair fight from the beginning with Adam and Eve right up until Mary maybe the unfortunate victim by stranger in a foreign land: ONE BIG CUM DUMP BY A BUNCH OF ROMAN SOLDIERS? It should not matter who's responsible for Jesus "Y" chromosome having made him male. I'm sure she still, "wouldn't know the man!"
                        Did she or did she not understand what just happened to her; the brain so powerful an organ that tells us what we hear, what we see, what we feel, even how it is we remember our past if at all.
                        And I can't help but seen a strong resemblance between Rudolf the Rednosed Reindeer and the other Reindeers who wouldn't let him play with them, Jesus as a child growing up with a mother for some reason strangely looking off into the distance , and even our Miracle Baby Timothy Tebow so strangely focused and intent on playing football a virgin instead of settling down and starting breeding Pro Lifes.
                        Well definitely Tebow I think I can understand. Even if not gay, just too bad wasn't raised Catholic; becoming a Priest instead of so intent on playing football. Tebow isn't that stupid although homeschooled by missionaries. If there is one thing he knows well, it's actually three: that life has definitely been blessed, that life is not football but the game itself yet not over, and that God does love this game...his specialty being the curve ball.
                        That too easily may be his first child. That family due a correction.
                        If Immaculate Conception be reason for God having chosen Mary as victim of his rape( unexpected teenage pregnancy), then Jesus conception being the results by one God Almighty Immaculate Ejaculation kinda DOES make sense.
                        OF COURSE JESUS WOULD HAVE TO DIED FOR OUR SINS SO THAT WE MAY HAVE EXCUSES CONTINUING ON LIVING WITH OUR GUILTY CONSCIENCES OR COURAGE TURNING THE OTHER CHEEKS: AS GOD BE NOTHING MORE THAN SUM OF MAN...HE WASN'T PERFECT EITHER!
                        And as far as Jesus being SON OF MAN...
                        couldn't he have just as easily have said:
                        SON BY FISH NAMED WANDA.
                        At LEAST this would get our Darwin fish back into the story ...



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                            So you're more of a 5-point Calvinist, I see. I'm closer to an Arminian, myself. But to each his own, right?



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                                God loves us all! And strives for our attention and worship. It's on us to take and accept His sacrifice (Jesus) for us and our sins.



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                                    In a manner of speaking. But it's not like He's up there in heaven biting nails thinking, "GEE, I sure hope such-and-such becomes a Christian!"
                                    Time isn't linear with God- he is outside of time, because time is a manmade creation. Therefore, we have to believe he can foreknow all events. If He knows what is going to happen ahead of time, God understands who is His own and who isn't. If God doesn't love you, he hates you; therefore, God doesn't technically love all people. But he equally gives opportunity to all to accept his gift of love.
                                    What are you truly asking when you deny predestination? - you're asking why God would send people to hell. See, there's a sense inside of that question saying that it's GOD'S fault, but it isn't. Sin and people send themselves to hell. God gave mankind a solution- Christ on the cross- but if you don't believe in that eternal gift then yes, God ain't yo friend. He cannot look upon sin nor can a sinful person come into heaven. Make sense? Look up Romans 8, buddy. I'm not making this up; it's in the Bible.



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                                        An interesting arguement- upvote for you.



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                                            Just to clear things up, God does not hate anyone, he hates the sin in everyone and their wicked ways.



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                                              So are you saying John 3:16 is a lie? It says for God so loved the world....". I believe world implies everyone. He's given everyone the choice to accept salvation, because he loves each of them. Yes we have the choice to accept it, but that doesn't mean he doesn't already love us.
                                              A note to everyone else: I've known for a long time this quote was phony.



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                                                  It's not a lie. If anything, I believe Purple fish would agree that the "world" is really the "good" and faithful people. These are the people that God truly loves since anyone else is living in sin otherwise.



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                                                      Yes, thank you. :)



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                                                          I still must disagree. Did Jesus eat with just the righteous? No, he ate with sinners. If you look at Mark 2:15-17
                                                          While Jesus was having dinner at Levi’s house, many tax collectors and sinners were eating with him and his disciples, for there were many who followed him. When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with the sinners and tax collectors, they asked his disciples: “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?” On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."



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                                                              If the "world" were really the "good" and faithful people, then why would they have needed God to send His son to die for them? God loves everyone and calls us to love everyone, no matter how sinful or hateful towards us they are. They are His creation also, and loves everyone even if they reject Him and His sacrifice for them.



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                                                                  But that's kind of stupid (sorry, don't get offended, please), you can't say the world is a handful of people. The world includes everybody and, unless they die, that doesn't change. I too wish the world was just a certain amount of people but there is nothing legal I can do to make some stop breathing...



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                                                                  I'm gonna have to disagree on you with this. Its obvious that you come from a different sect of Christianity than I do, and I'm not saying you're wrong for having a different interpretation of it than I do. However, its not really right of you to be telling people that God doesn't love them because of what you personally believe.



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                                                                      What, you think I go around telling people God doesn't love them? Absolutely not! I tell people of the love of God, and the hope of the Savior. I'm saying only God knows who His elect are, and those who aren't, He hates. Romans 8:7-8 says, "The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh CANNOT PLEASE GOD."
                                                                      Romans 8:29 says, "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And those he PREDESTINED, he also called; and those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified."



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                                                                          Predestination is not some elite club. Its not like Heaven has a maximum capacity limit. I believe that everyone is called. And so, everyone is predestined. Because if we believed that there were only a certain group of us that God cared for, it would conflict with passages like 2 Pete 3:9 that states "...He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." And the obvious John 3:16. And you're right, a wordly or flesh governed mind cannot please God, but that doesn't mean he doesn't love them. It's possible to love someone and not be pleased by their actions. And its a foolish notion to think that you could ever reach such a high level of righteousness that you would never disappoint a perfect God.



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                                                                          God loves each person jealously and fiercely. He is indeed figuratively biting his nails.



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                                                                            Wait, just because god or any other person doesn't love someone you can't say they hate them, that's just not true.
                                                                            For example, that guy that works down at that coffee shop you go, I don't know him, I have no idea of his name, face, whatever, obviously, I don't love him, but I also don't hate him, I simply don't care about him or his existence. Those people I occasionally talk and laugh with but barely know them, I don't love or hate them, I simply like them and enjoy their company. Those over there that are always there for, those I love, they're my friends, but the others on the other side, I don't really like them or they're company, but I simply not care enough to hate them. And god? I've heard of it, I don't know if it's real or no, but I don't care. I don't love it because I don't think it exists, but I don't hate it because, well, the same reason applies. However, I'm not sure if it's real or not. Truth is, I don't go around saying to people they should love or hate god, so god has no reason to either love me or hate me, so you can't just say white or black on that.



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                                                                                The bible is in white and black, no grey areas. According to scripture you should not hate anyone! "Love your neighbors" "love your enemies" and for you to say "god has no reason to either love me or hate me" is not true. god loves you despite your shortcomings



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